. Though he had been an early member of Vaughns defense team when Vaughn initially faced the death penalty, Clutter said he was discharged when the death penalty was abolished and has mostly worked pro bono on the case. Well, episode three continues the victim bashing. He looked back over his shoulder at his family before being led from the courtroom after the sentencing. After she enrolled in her online class, Kimberly began to experience migraine headaches that her doctor attributed to stress. Chris pleaded with police to get the video so he would know what happened to his family. Who would more likely use his jacket to conceal a gun? Vaughn's family murder occurred on June 14th, 2007. When they latched the seat belt, the large bloodstain was located right at the point where the latch came together. Alex Murdaugh, 53, calls 911 and reports he found his wife Margaret, 52, and son Paul, then 22, shot dead outside of their home in Islandton, a small community about an hour north of Hilton Head. Vaughn's wife and children were never mentioned in the writings, but there was a reference to one of the exotic dancers. But at one point in the tape, a weary and disheveled Vaughn is seen saying: 'I couldnt have done this; she couldnt have done this.'. why cant the family feel pride in academic achievements? Christopher Vaughn may be the least unjustly imprisoned of the tens of thousands of men and women doing time in Illinois prisons. He turns 47 on Sept. 26. 1. Channahon Firefighter-Paramedic Ryan Jandura said he found a Harry Potter book and a stuffed animal by 12-year-old Abigayle's body. Jurors found Vaughn guilty of the June 14, 2007, murders of his wife Kimberly, 34, and their children: 12-year-old Abigayle, 11-year-old Cassandra, and 8-year-old Blake. Doesnt make him some kind of hero. He turned his pistol, the same one he had used the night before to practice shooting at a gun range, and shot Blake, 8, Cassandra, 11, and Abigayle, 12, all in the head and the chest. The States forensic pathologist later disagreed with this conclusion and testified in deposition that the soot pattern fanning away from the entrance wound meant that this was loose contact with no force. Press J to jump to the feed. He then. Its worth mentioning that when Christopher was interviewed by police they suggested that he had been stressed out, which caused him to shoot and kill his family. That's the way Christopher Vaughn is.". Authorities said no one motive had been established but. whose wife and three children were found fatally shot in the Plus, hear from the former Assistant States Attorney who believes Chris is right where he belongs. 'They're gone. Elizabeth, another sister, and Jennifer, Kimberly's twin, were both there. After getting back inside the car, he said, I looked over and thought I saw a gun, but I knew that was impossible why does Kim have a gun? Then the doctor was asked what the significance would be taking both medications Nortriptyline and Topamax together. Were ready for anything that occurs, Glasgow said. Blake, 8, a kind-hearted boy who loved baseball and had an outsized vocabulary, was slain last, apparently after raising his arms in self-defense. When investigators arrived at the scene, they noticed blood stains on the strap of the seatbelt. Another showed the three children, who were settled under blankets and on pillows for the long, early-morning ride to Springfield, dead together in the backseat of the SUV. His lawyers argued Kimberly shot him and the kids and then killed herself. That spring he went on a vacation alone to explore the Yukon. I felt like I needed some balance or to just clean my palate. When Vaughn's family was killed, he lost his three young children and his wife, making him the sole survivor. And so far no actual evidence that might show innocence, just story after story of all the stuff they did outside (???) He would be tried and convicted of their murders. Wtf would you blame the deceaseds mother! Why would a father simply sit there after being shot and allow his wife to shoot and kill the kids and then herself without doing anything to prevent it? Blake had been shot in the forehead and near his left underarm indicating he had raised his arm defensively. . He described to the police how he and his family left their home at around five in the morning to go to a water park in Springfield. He spends much of the gruelling 12-hour interview with his face in his hands or down on the table. Pritzkers press secretary declined to comment. However, a state police ballistic expert from ISP crime lab who was present when he made this remark disputed this chauvinistic assumption saying that her own hand was able to test fire the weapon with no difficulty. I fell back out the door preparing to make another attempt. (CBS), Neighbors and friends created a memorial outside After pulling over, the motorist phoned 911, and the man was rushed to hospital. I tried to explain it awaymaybe they are really young?maybe they couldn't figure out a better way to begin the podcast?Maybe I have to fold all this laundry and I have nothing else to listen to , so I am just going to let it go? TOPAMAX may cause depression or mood problems, tiredness, and sleepiness. "You couldn't believe it.". Later, Ledbetter spoke with Sgt. . No longer alive, Chris.'. The lawyer W.W. Vaughan, with his wife and several of their children. Vaughn is being held in Pinckneyville Correctional Center, records show. He allegedly shoved his handgun under Kimberly's chin and shot her, then turned the gun on his sleeping children, the last of whom apparently raised his arms in an attempt to fend off the fatal bullets. The Vaughn family murders in Illinois in 2007 have long divided those interested in the crimes. 'Theyre dead. The case took another turn on Sept. 7, 2021, when PEOPLE reported that members of Alex's law firm had confronted him about missing money on Sept. 3 . After seeing these colorized vintage crime scene photos, take a look at colorized photos that bring century-old New York to life. He had re-secured the strap on the topper, got back into the vehicle, noticed that his leg was bleeding, but had no memory of being shot. Police and EMS were both called, and both arrived at the scene. I can breathe again. The massacre. The Murdaugh family. Homicidal and Suicidal Behavior Induced by Prescription Medications. Susan Phillips, right, mother of Kimberly Vaughn, and Kimberly's twin sister, Jennifer Ledbetter, spoke at Christopher Vaughn's sentencing Tuesday at the Will County Courthouse in Joliet. He was in pants, tshirt AND long sleeve flannel shirt. Christopher sustained minor injuries to his wrist and leg while the other four sustained fatal gunshot . Angelo Ciaravino and Richard Zoller both have a way of getting their Mount Carmel teammates and the crowd fired up. On Tuesday, Kimberly's identical twin sister, Jennifer Ledbetter, explained that she feared her looks and personality traits were a painful reminder for the rest of her family of Kimberly's absence and violent death. Beloved wife of Christopher Vaughn; beloved mother of Abigayle, Cassandra and Blake; beloved daughter of Del and Susan Phillips Police had given him every opportunity to blame his wife, but he responded, There was no way she could have hurt the kids. They said he spent nearly $5,000 at a strip club in the days before the murders. The gun was thrust into his jacket above the right pocket for the second shot. Most who knew the family described Chris as quiet and mild mannered, an introvert. in the shooting deaths of his wife, Prosecutors have charged Christopher Vaughn with shooting and killing his wife and their three young children on June 14, 2007, the day he was supposed to be driving them to an Illinois water. 'The only thing I can think is that Kim somehow got a hold of my gun,' Vaughn said. "You could lock him up for 500 lifetimes and it would not compensate the victims in this case or the family members.". The police questioned Vaughn in hospital. Kim fired at me. Chris revolver was lying on the floorboard near her feet. . Pacheco, a former Dr. Oz producer, has said Kimberlys family declined her requests for comment. But there was one email she wrote to her husband on May 24, 2007, three weeks before her death that provides the best supporting evidence that she was experiencing dangerous side effects of her medications. Courtesy Melville Vaughan When the FBI took up the case, in 1923, agents badly bungled the probe. A group that supports unjust convictions, Investigating Innocence, is looking into the matter. family's sports utility vehicle June 14, in Channahon, Ill., is After hiding a handgun under her chin, Kimberly Vaughn was shot in the head. The sergeant tells him: 'Say their names. The Oswego family was reportedly taking a day trip to a water park in Springfield when Christopher Vaughn left Interstate 55 and drove onto a frontage road when his wife became ill. 'Abigayle, Blake,' the detective adds. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. charged with eight counts of I came here for this!!! Funding his defense reverted back to Will County. Husband and father Chris Vaughn was found limping away from his SUV along a highway with two non-fatal gunshot wounds during the early morning of June 14, 2007. Will County States Attorney James Glasgow. seen Friday leaving a funeral home after the visitation in St. On December 16, 2008, the FDA released a report linking a statistically significant risk of suicide in patients taking the prescription medication Topamax. After killing his family, she said, Vaughn intentionally grazed his wrist with a bullet and shot himself in the leg, Mills said then "planted the gun between" Kimberly's feet. I have read some of the flood of news articles following the Chris Vaughn trial. The prosecution said he had shoved the gun under his wife's chin and killed her first, before turning . ", After the sentencing, Kimberly's family hugged and shook hands with investigators. The new medication guide advised patients to inform their doctor right away if they experienced anxiety while taking the medication. The podcast is currently on the second episode and has shown the case from the view of Chris Vaughn's supporters. His jacket had holes in it that suggested it was bunched around the gun when fired. One symptom of experiencing a traumatic event is the freeze-response. His statement to police I froze is exactly what may have happened. John List. I think that is what drove me to seek out some discussion and resulted in my post. In addition to Jandura, two other firefighters, two Channahon police officers and Kimberly's mother, Susan Phillips, testified. However, a DNA report from the ISP crime lab contradicted this theory. To this day he maintains no memory of what occurred that tragic day 20 years ago. Sit down dining, or available carryout, Year around. She had unbuckled her own seatbelt to reach back to shoot her three children. Did You Wonder Who Fired the Gun? In 2004, Chris purchased a 9mm Taurus and joined the Washington Association of Legal Investigators (WALI). The Oswego man, now 38, murdered his family in 2007 after pulling their SUV off Interstate 55 onto an isolated frontage road near Channahon on the way to what he said was a surprise trip to a Springfield water park. The bullet deflected off the watch and went out the drivers side window evidence that was consistent with the CSIs interpretation. He allegedly murdered his family so he could move to a . Most of their commentary was so unnecessary. Victims Kimberly Vaughn, 34 Abigayle Vaughn, 12 Cassandra Vaughn, 11 Blake Vaughn, 8 News Archive: Vaughn Family murders Christopher Vaughn's defense centers on role of wife's medications Vaughn trial set for closing argument Prosecutor in Vaughn Case: "Give Them Justice" Christopher Vaughn guilty of killing family Husband, Father Convicted in 2007 Roadside Murder Case Christopher But what we see on the left thumb is seepage of blood from the wound, creating large patterns of passive blood drops. To this day he maintains no memory of what occurred on the day of the murders. FORENSIC EVIDENCE OF MURDER-SUICIDE People v. Christopher Vaughn, Will County, IL No. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. "He's going to get the opposite of what he wants," Weiss said. After murdering his entire family . the Murderpedia project stay alive. Kimberly, and three kids, Abigayle, Cassandra and Blake. After listening to family members semi deify him, I wanted to read the facts against the man. A few years before, Chris Vaughn had started Stone Bridge Security, a licensed private detective agency in Bellevue, WA. There is a transfer stain of blood on the inside of Kimberlys right thumb. What's so unbelievable about all of this is that Archie actually convinced a group of friends that killing 7 people would bring baby Craig back from the dead! Sadly, it took place on what should have been an exciting day at a local waterpark for the family. The boy was with his mother, Meghan, and two other brothers when they were involved in a road rage. In some cases the memory may be restored days later, or not at all, according to the DSM-IV. RELATED: Jurors hear about Lakewood murder linked by DNA to 1984 killing of Bennett family Contact 9NEWS reporter Kevin Vaughan with tips about this or any story: kevin.vaughan@9news.com or 303 . I havent formed an opinion yet, but was looking to see what you guys think. Though Vaughn claimed not to remember details of the shooting, he contended that he pulled the Expedition off the highway when Kimberly said she was feeling sick. LBP should be ashamed of herself. , Your post contains more evidence than the seven hours of this podcast so far. The magazine was collected as evidence and sent to the crime lab in an attempt to prove that Chris had read the article, and became an expert on crime scene staging. By analyzing the blood evidence on the wifes right thumb, it all comes together to prove it was the wife who unbuckled her own seatbelt, after her husband had been shot. Shortly after Chris Vaughn was discovered limping down a highway with two gunshot wounds in the early morning hours of June 14, 2007, his wife and kids were found in their SUV shot to death. Our crime scene expert Tom Bevel used a dowel rod to determine the bullet trajectory. Christopher Vaughn was convicted of killing his wife and three young children after their bodies were found in the family's SUV just off I-55 in Channahon. Kimberly, Christophers spouse, and their three kids were discovered dead inside the SUV, though. A member of Kimberlys family declined to speak to the Sun-Times. His blood is on her side of the car. At another point, Vaughn pushes away a bag of food from McDonalds that detectives have brought him. He pulled the Expedition over, got out under the guise of checking a cargo compartment on the roof of the SUV, grabbed his wife through the open passenger window, stuck a pistol under her chin and blew her brains out, Mills said. When contacted by the Sun-Times on Thursday, he noted that Vaughn has had 10 years to come up with this statement, which Regis called contrary to the evidence., Glasgow also said the new theory contradicts the scene, insisting the angles are all wrong and it means Vaughns car door, where a bullet was found, would have been open. February 15, 2007 (Thursday) . Also this past weekend on 07/25/21, the afternoon radio host (WGN Radio) was discussing the horrific "crime of the century" when Richard Speck brutally murdered 8 nurses in Chicago (07/14/1966). Murder in Illinois has taken heavy criticism for its generally negative portrayal of Kimberly and her family. In some cases, the observation of back spatter on the hand that held the gun will provide unmistakable evidence of suicide. He had a fair trial. It didnt make sense that a guy, like Chris, an expert computer forensic investigator, would leave damaging evidence on his computer if he were contemplating killing his family. List used a revolver and a semi-automatic handgun to end the lives of his wife, Helen (46); his mother, Alma (84); and his children, Patricia (16), Frederick (13), and John Frederick (15). Abigayle "Abbi" Vaughn, 12, an accomplished student and athlete who had just begun wearing eye makeup, was slain while clutching a Harry Potter book and a stuffed animal. That would be significant, he said. While Vaughn might come off as cold-hearted or callous, Lenard asked jurors not use the accused quadruple-murderer's demeanoror eccentricitiesagainst him. I forgot, his co worker said they went out on a work trip, partied, came back to the hotel at 1AM and later Chris said he went back out, returned at 5AM and chris eluded to things getting wild during that time. A prosecutor said that, if Vaughn had been wearing the jacket when the holes were made near the right front pocket and in the back, he might not be here today.. Christopher Vaughn, of Oswego, was was sentenced to four life terms on Nov. 27, 2012, for fatally shooting his wife and three children after pulling off Interstate 55 near Channahon, Ill., in Will . The States Case The two detectives leave Vaughn in the interview room for hours between discussions, alternating between courteous questioning and intense interrogation. The ISP CSI described how the phenomenon of tunnel vision infected the Vaughn case. Murder in Illinois is a true crime podcast that examines the 2007 case of Chris Vaughn who was arrested and convicted of the murders of his wife and three children. The tragic incident took place on what should have been an exciting day at a local waterpark for the . Kimberly Phillips was born on December 12, 1972, to Del and Susan Phillips of Saint Charles, Missouri. Evidence will show that Vaughn planned to take off and live in the Yukon wilderness, Mills said, and that before going "he wanted to be without any obligations.". He wore the same outfit to shoot at the range the night before, that gave him the gunshot residue, she was not a good shot, could not handle the recoil, yet she turns half way and fires off great shots? first-degree murder in the Given the fact that the wifes chin wound was directly above this, it was assumed that she had been the source of this blood. said she always spoke highly of her family. Crucially, prosecutors also argued that two bullet holes in a jacket he wore had been created when someone wrapped the gun in the jacket to either silence or conceal the weapon, or to cushion a blow. Shortly after Chris Vaughn was discovered limping down a highway with two gunshot wounds in the early morning hours of June 14, 2007, his wife and kids were found in their SUV shot to death. After the killings, Vaughn staggered off and flagged down a motorist who called the police. He is at Menard Correctional Center, one of the most violent prisons in Illinois. The podcasts host, Lauren Bright Pacheco, said the theory offered in Thursdays episode, its ninth, has already been tested in a crime-scene reconstruction July 15 in Kentucky. There were two holes in his jacket. He allegedly killed his family so he could live by himself in the Canadian wilderness. 'Murder in Illinois' also explores the details of Chris Vaughn's family. Family life: Christopher Vaughn, 37, with his wife Kimberly and children (left to right) Cassandra, 11, Blake, eight, and Abigayle, 12. He, along with Edward Deli, were convicted of killing two people and critically injuring a third in . 10. On the way, Kimberly started to feel sick, so he got off I-55 around Channahon and took the quiet frontage road. lastly, its SO weird that his parents say things like accident they left all the odd terminology regarding the murders struck me as super weird. 2007-02-15 Stephen Willott, was e-mail friend who planned to live in Canadian wilderness with Chris Vaughn 08/31/12 "Friend: Christopher Vaughn wanted simple life away from government, people" Be forewarned that some of the. He also objectedwhile the jury was out of the courtroomto photos taken of Kimberly and the children when they were still alive being shown on the screen. The back side of Chriss jacket had a transfer stain in a straight line just under the right shoulder blade extending down to the waist of the jacket. When the man asked if he had been in a motorcycle accident, or if he had been stabbed, he replied, No, I think my wife shot me. Reviewing his statements, it was apparent that he had no memory of what happened to his family. Rozak said before imposing his sentence that he was "very frustrated" by the state Legislature's restrictions, an apparent reference to Illinois' decision last year to end the death penalty. My blood pressure explodes every week when another whiny, victim bashing, full of spin, low on facts episode is released. He was convicted and they should keep Kims name out of their mouths. But not all entrance wounds produce back spatter. Then, later, he adds: 'She shot me, she shot the kids.'. He was arrested as he was about to attend their funerals. He posted wistful Internet messages about building a cabin and. Christopher Vaughn is accused of murdering his wife and three kids in 2007. . The shots to the children in the back seat came from over the left shoulder of the front passenger seat, where Kimberly was found, records show. She married Christopher Vaughn in 1994. Abigayle had been shot near the right eye and in her right lower chest. Christopher Vaughn, 32, is charged with eight counts of murder Cassandra was shot in the middle of her forehead and in her chest. That stripped away resources to defend Vaughn. "Mr. Vaughn likes writing poetry. Mr. Vaughn is quirky. Why not ask how they are, why are you not upset that you cant remember? This analysis of the crime scene evidence not only disproves the initial police theory that it was Chris who unbuckled the seat belt, but it helps to establish evidence supporting a defense theory that this was a murder-suicide committed by the wife. "It crushes my heart," she said of being separated from her sister. CAUTION, CRIME SCENE PHOTOS! Thank you very much in advance. I got back in to check the kids. She gets mad when I dont call her.. The letter said Vaughn trusted investigators to get to the truth. His case seems to be that the ballistics did not 100% line up with the state's theory. I was brought on to the case by a St. Louis criminal defense attorney with whom I had worked before. TOP 10%. Police investigators used this in their affidavit for probable cause, concluding that his statement of having looked down at his leg and then exiting the vehicle to summon help was inconsistent with the evidence of his wifes blood on the back of his jacket. Clutter, founder of Investigating Innocence, said a crime-scene reconstruction has shown Vaughn couldnt have unbuckled his wifes seat belt. I am making a list s a form of therapy. "Mr. Vaughn does not show his feelings or emotions to anyone under any circumstances," said attorney George Lenard. It was around midnight when the parents of April Boss went looking for the 19 . They are lucky they were allowed to be at the funeral. This is the first time I've heard about the Vaughn family. The jury returned the verdicts Monday, a few hours after hearing from prosecutors and lawyers for the former cattle truck driver. Without a good explanation, the appointed local attorney left a voice message to cancel the meeting and declined the assistance of the Center. At one point, Sergeant Gary Lawson asks Vaughn what he thought the person who had killed his family deserved. Her apartment was set on fire, and her body was burned beyond . Its the Vaughn family who are judgy AF about people reading & being educated. Elizabeth, another sister, and Jennifer, Kimberlys twin, were both there. A Drug Hit. Unholy Rollers January 21 2014 22min TV-14 Subtitles Subtitles English [CC] Murder of the wife and children in the suburbs, Kimberly. The Vaughn family moved from Washington state to the Chicago area about a year ago, bringing their two dogs with them, according to the May 27 article. November 27, 2012 / 10:33 AM / CBS Chicago. Crime Scene Reconstruction and Blood Stain Pattern Analysis: The Case of Christopher Vaughn By Bill Clutter Director of Investigations, "Investigating Innocence" The Scene of the Crime Around 5:20 a.m. on June 14, 2007, a man driving to work along the frontage road of Interstate 55 south of Joliet, Illinois encountered Christopher Vaughn, 32, limping The bag was still sitting on the table untouched about an hour later. I left a scathing review and I never do that. When he was questioned by detectives in the following days, Vaughn told them conflicting versions of how the shooting happened, Mills said, and video of the various interrogations will be shown to the jury. Kimberly suffered an angle-contact gunshot wound under her chin, records show. Traces of his flesh and blood, and denim and polyester fibers consistent with the jacket and jeans were found on the bullet. Jeremy Webster is accused of fatally shooting 13-year-old Vaughn Bigelow on June 14, 2018. Their claims of being judged by her family are pure projection. Spatter on left hand, thats blowback from the angle, IMO.
I told him that you had noticed and I had noticed a big personality change and anxiety change and that I was lethargic (tired all the time)., According to the new medication guide published in May 2009, the FDA required the manufacturer to insert into the product labeling new warnings informing patients and physicians: Effects on Thinking . He didnt like his life and this was his choice on how to remedy that. Im fully aware it wont make a difference, but it felt like therapy so why not? Kim was slumped so I tried to buckle her. Vaughns family did not respond to a message seeking comment. Even more compelling evidence supporting a murder-suicide came over a year after Chris was arrested when the Food and Drug Administration recommended a black box warning for a risk of suicidal behavior for the medicine Kimberly was taking to treat her stress-induced migraine headaches. Murder in Illinois: With Lauren Bright Pacheco. I am new to Reddit. Vaughn's initial statement revealed an outlandish story he would cling to during the course of his defense. But in Vaughns case, he said the evidence was overwhelming.. Initially, it was believed that he had unbuckled his wifes seat belt after he shot her. Kimberly planned to get her degree in criminal justice and join him as a PI. 'Mandalorian' star Pedro Pascal, creators on new Grogu revelations and 'Last of Us' comparisons, Saved by the bell: Contestant ordered to keep mask on, in historic 'Masked Singer' first, Chris Pine admits 'it does look' like Harry Styles spit on him but this is what actually happened, Rebel Wilson 'collapsed' after Ramona Agruma proposal: 'I was so overwhelmed', Amy Grant recalls being 'so scared' to return to touring following serious bike accident. Prosecutors have said Christopher Vaughn dreamed of leaving his dull suburban life and decided to kill his family and embark on a survivalist sojourn in the Yukon. Was he responsible? I got to the road to get help.. It was like my mind shut off . In 2012, an Illinois court convicted Vaughn of murdering Kimberly and their three children. That made it a little more personal for me, but I would have been thoroughly grossed out regardless. Around 5:20 a.m. on June 14, 2007, a man driving to work along the frontage road of Interstate 55 south of Joliet, Illinois encountered Christopher Vaughn, 32, limping away from the Ford Expedition he had been driving. Family Annihilation: The Vaughn Family Murders. Vaughn's parents are asking for a new trial. Forensic evidence emerges throughout the podcast series. I couldnt drive the truck. No Cover, Public Welcome 21+, 35th Annual Arts, Crafts and Food Festival, Mark Skorusa Loan Originator powered by Rocket Mortgage NMLS #2347622, Turano Bread Truck Engulfed In Flames On I-55, Video Of Surrendering Man Killed By Will Co. 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