Thanks! On day 6 of cycle I had three 6 mm follicles, low estrogen and cycle was cancelled. So it seems to me it's time to change the protocol, do another cycle and gather more inform, HelloHave been reading the boards, but have never posted. Group Owners uphold the core values of the brand by reporting content that violates the community guidelines. Please!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm looking for any feedback on microflare protocol using microdose lupron and ICSI. 13R. Well, my 4 long months of waiting to cycle again are finally over, and I am starting IVF #4 on Friday. I'm looking for some insight on the microdose lupron protocol. Me: 33, Endocrine issues & FVL DH:32, Nothing. Lazer T, Liu A, et al. I think it was high though, like that. My second we moved from an antagonist to a Lupron stop protocol with PICSI and wound up with 8 embryos, 3 of which were PGS normal. I hate long stims. Thanks! crazy how we have to get creative, huh?? Now.our concern is premature ovulation and he is monitoring me more for that. I did 2 FETs but did not get pregnant, Now I have just one embryo left. Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol In the regular IVF protocol, Lupron and BCP are used for at least 2 weeks before ovarian stimulation. Your nurse will phone you with instructions by 5:00PM this day. Group Owners uphold the core values of the brand by reporting content that violates the community guidelines. How do they decide? i.really hope.that this year brings me some.good.news..thanks.for sharing your story. Our beautiful little girl arrived January 2015! HB 132 & everything measuring on track. The use of Lupron has effectively eliminated the risk of OHSS . This treatment protocol is known as a "microdose flare." The initial injections of Lupron stimulate the pituitary gland to secrete its own natural FSH and LH (aka a flare), in addition to the FSH and LH you get from the other two injectable fertility medications.
I do have mild DOR and respond poorly to stims. Wowzers!!! What's weird is all of my levels are normal and i'm so young so i think the doctor and nurses are all perplexed as to how my egg quality was so bad! 1Frostie. Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). I had 6 unexplained failure FETs. Wehave3 CCS Normal Embryos! BCP's-Re gave me a pack free If this next one doesnt work, perhaps ask for a pregnancy loss bloodwork panel. Wow so why cant u access your frozen eggs? ), I didn't do EPP, but am saying good luck! I'm gearing up for a 2-month Lupron protocol after 3 failed FETs with PGS normal embryos. 43 &37 eggs?! Experience with Estrogen Priming Protocol? Hi all, This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. Setting: Anatolia Women and IVF Center. Microdose lupron/micro flare lupron vs agonist-antagonist ivf protocol. Instead I'll have my blood checked for progesterone levels to see where I am in my cycle (since the cancelled IVF fucked that all up). What felt "cookie cutter" was that despite my great day 3 tests, RE put me on microdose Lupron flare protocol with 300 units of Follistim (150 twice a day). Meanwhile, we're running out of solutions. My first stim cycle was Antagonist and we actually did cancel ER. Er2: 7 mature eggs, follistim 250 iu with ganirelix, no priming. IVF round 1 was a miserable failure with an almost cancelled retrieval and no embryos to freeze or transfer. Press J to jump to the feed. 0000001169 00000 n
Following. Initial was 12. with this protocol, and a general timeline for when things happen when you don't do BCP suppression beforehand New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. Our patients visit Texas Fertility Center to achieve their dreams of having a baby. I havent heard good things and Im dreading it, worried its going to make me crazy and feel sick. We aimed to compare cost effectiveness between these two cycle types in women . With IVF#2, I got 16 eggs, 15 of which were mature. I know everyone's situation is completely different, and we all respond differently to the meds, but I just thought I would ask. Stimmed for 12 days and had retrieval on day 14. Infertility Support Community in Partnership with RESOLVE. 0000009011 00000 n
Two fertilized and on Sunday I find out how many I am carrying. 3 were mature, and only one fertilized. The number of daily injections are fewer (4 to 5 days) of antagonists versus 3-4 weeks of agonists) and the length of time to stimulate the follicles to maturity is one or two days shorter, so you may need less total gonadotropins. I am hoping and praying that all 4 make it to day 5 for. 16 22
Please whitelist our site to get all the best deals and offers from our partners. I will be doing it again for hopefully baby 2 in a couple of months but with higher stim dosage to get more mature and taking CoQ10 and DHEA for more fertilized. New Braunfels, TX 78130, 18707 Hardy Oak Blvd, Ste. And can someone generally explain the 'steps' to me? Are you sure you want to block this member? While many studies to evaluate the effectiveness of these additional medications have been conducted, there are unfortunately very few definitive conclusions that have been reached. Good luck on thursday. My anatogist cycle sucked. 0000017584 00000 n
--- EDD 4/5/15, "Everything will be alright in the end. How do you recover from a failed IVF? Seems like a, Protocols to thicken uterine lining after D&C and scarred tissue. Bzeety- do you remember if you started on 300 iu's of Gonal-F? Stimulation Day 4 Come in for an E2 and LH blood test. Micro-dose Leuprolide injection (MCDL) is a compounded preparation made from diluted commercially available leuprolide. Are you sure you want to block this member? Hi, But I believed we switched because of not getting eggs. Lupron Depot: May 2013 to August 2013
I'm on day 8 of stim meds and only have 1 follicle at 13, and 4 others under 9. 1st ultrasound 10/1: TWO beautiful heartbeats! Round Rock, Texas 78681, 5000 Davis Lane, Ste 100
1 single dose LUPRON-at RE office But ever since then, despite having a lot of embryos, we were never able to repeat this success. Maybe it is too soon for bloating. Kate's IF Blog. Had two follicles but one disappeared day of egg retrieval. 3. I'm going to talk to the doctor soon about our options. Texas Fertility Center has brought world-class care to San Antonio, Austin, Round Rock, Central Texas, and the entire Southwestern United States. This handout is staff as legal aid cannot provide patients with general information. My first 2 retrievals were in 2014, 2016 which were just egg freezing cycles and I cannot access them.now due to covid. I did this protocol for my cycle. At my age of 42, I am praying for more than 7 or 8 eggs and better quality for PGS testing. Lupron Depot is used in women to treat symptoms of endometriosis (overgrowth of uterine lining outside of the uterus) or uterine fibroids. (The use of generic Lupron is acceptable.) undefined will no longer be visible to you including posts, replies, and photos. The other thing is they tell me that with microdose your retrieval is later. 16 0 obj<>
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Adding Cetrotide. I am now 6 weeks pregnant after completing the MDL protocol in Nov. GnRH antagonist protocols have several advantages over GnRH agonists protocols. What was your protocol before? What now - IUI, Adoption, Donor Eggs or Donor Embryos, Retire Early?! I just pray it works. Transfered a blast and early blast and froze one. Short Lupron (Microdose or Flare) Protocol for IVF. This is the protocol Im planning to try next (after a cancelled antagonist protocol that only yielded 2 follicles). I did 10 days of BCP, then Lupron, repronex and Gonal-F for about 10 days. Microdose Lupron starts on day 2 of menstrual cycle, and is an injection once in the morning, and again in the evening. I am excited to read all the success stories. 1Frostie. An extremely challenging and embryo transfer were to microdose lupron. Estrogen priming and the agonist-antagonist conversion protocol is at least as successful as the microdose flare protocol based on medical data. Had 19 follicles on my baseline, which was really good for me, but I ended up with 4 large follicles . Just checking in to see how you did with the flare protocol. Advanced Fertility Care Injection Teaching Videos. Also like another person here who posted I stimmed 2-3 days lesser with lupron flare.. IVF1 (ICSI): Long Lupron
If we believe that a particular patient will not respond well to stimulation medications, either because she is older, she has diminished ovarian reserve, or she has had previous ovarian surgery, we will frequently use our poor responder protocol. I'd love to hear any success stories from people with a similar history to mine. 8Cell 1Grade 2Embies. Estrogen Priming Protocol: In some women who respond poorly to the short protocol (e.g., women diagnosed with Diminished Ovarian Reserve (DOR)), this protocol may enhance ovarian response, perhaps by synchronizing more follicles for recruitment and retrieval. I'm almost 36 and have been TTC for 2.5 years. Besides, I hear regular lupron sucks so I'm grateful I didn't have to do that part. Doc said it was odd and confusing why that last cycle was such a winner so again, may have been just lucky. Hello all, I need some feedback. Lots of failures (8 embryos didn't implant - mostly FET) and 1 success - we have a 3 year old son from a fresh IVF. 3 failed IUI's I have an IVF consult in two weeks and although I've got my questions (mostly from the wise women on this board) I'm trying to get more information on 'protocols'. The most commonly prescribed stimulation protocol in the United States uses BCPs, leuprolide acetate (Lupron) to prevent ovulation, gonadotropins such as follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) or human menopausal gonadotropin (hMG) to cause the eggs to develop, human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) to cause the eggs to mature, and progesterone to Where do we go from here?
Many different stimulation regimens have been developed and evaluated and it is therefore very important for you to discuss your options in detail with your physician. My last two cycles resulted in only one embryo viable for testing which in the end were aneuploid. Group Leaders arent expected to spend any additional time in the community, and are not held to a set schedule. Ive been priming for transfer for 11 days and Im only at 6.7mm. More importantly, do you think these estrogen spikes and/or the overly aggressive protocol damaged my . Stimmed for 12 days and had retrieval on day 14. I am currently priming with growth hormone waiting for my period. (Not so) Short summary - DH and I have been ttc since May 2015, two early m/c. G&B born 6/30/14 at 33w3d via emergency c/s. We started IVF due to MFI, i did a long lupron short stim cycle last month and it failed due to being a poor responder. My E2 never soared like some women'son the day of my trigger my E2 was only 1563, but I still got 16 eggs. Then my friend hadsuccess with Micro dose lupron flareprotocol so I asked my dr to put me on the exact same one. 2TFR'ed. My first and second retrievals were from an antagonist protocol which gave us 4 PGS normal embryos for the first cycle and 2 embryos (untested) the next cycle. Non left to freeze --> BFN IVF#5 (April/May 2014): Antagonist Estrogen Priming -Cornell Protocol (Clomid+ Menopur+Gonal F + Orgalutran) MD said after that many years that the chance of a successful reversal is slim and none and that our best chance would be IVF. I have had 3 Doctors want to use Lupron in some form. Baby girl born Aug 2013 Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. Total noob question about protocols - don't be offended. So we didnt biopsy & test then freeze. When I picked up my meds today, and the guy told me which to refrigerate, he then quickly said "oh ya, you already know that. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. I'm gearing up for my 4th IVF cycle next month. Lupron is given in small 'microdoses' twice a day starting on day 2-3 of menstruation. The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. 4. I performed poorly with estrogen priming, so we are taking it out now.hsve you started stim? Only thing I can pinpoint is age. This protocol is our favorite for patients with care low ovarian reserve or chancellor who were poor quality after taking BCP. Well, if any of you can share tips, advice, experiencesI would greatly appreciate it! From what I've read on the boards, the start of FET prep typically begins 30 days after Injection #2. So I know that you begin with birth control (but I, I've had one unsuccessful IVF and one that had such a poor response we turned it into an IUI instead. My little one is a success story from MDL! Had two follicles but one disappeared day of egg retrieval. Wegot completely different results at 43 I got 6 eggs mature eggs & 3 embryos. Oestrogen primed micro dose lupron protocol - here you take oestrogen 7 days after you ovulate and stop when you get your AF. Amazing! trailer
My doctor said he will keep adjusting me based on my scan results. A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. Doc consult at the end of this month. Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. Corpus Christi, TX 78413. It seems to be less common, since most clinics batch cycle, and this one is based off your individual cycle. GnRH agonists like Lupron are primarily used for the treatment of endometriosis and fibroids. Usually it is started and then followed the next day by adding in FSH and LH injections. Can someone explain to me the difference in the protocols? The first IVF we suppressed first with birth control pills and then did Gonal F. We got 3 eggs, two of which were mature. Three days following the last OCP, lupron 20 mcg b.i.d. Canceled due to ovulation through Lupron. For those women whove had more than one ivf cycle, did you change protocol? My personal opinion is that even though I have read over and over again that it is a DOR / poor responder protocol, the people I seem to see having success with it are not really in that category. Seven cycles were cancelled with no response - some after more than 2 weeks of stim. My husband doesn't even want donor eggs, so.donor eggs.might.not be an option for now. You're on your 4th so you should have a lot of good info guiding your RE in this direction For me, I did 3 IUIs with 6 follies initially, then 4, then only 2, respectively, and on IVF#1 I had only 2 follies so we canceled and just did IUI, all of this BFN, and IVF#2 only had ONE follie which we did the ER w/ICSI and it didn't fertilize. Estrace(90 tabs)-estrogen I am going in for my 4th IUI in what was supposed to be an IVF cycle. Only recently. You can read up on estrogen priming (also . When I talked with ccrm on the phone, it sounds like I'll be doing EPP with my next cycle (also #4 for me!).. 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