British No4 rifles were set up with a 5 digit serial number system with 1XXXX being allotted to Maltby, 2XXXX Fazakerley, 3XXXX BSA Shirley. Baird marked their bayonets two different ways: Some No. If it has a lateral screw through the back of the forend, it is either a post war production Mk.2, or an earlier mark that has been rebuilt. 1 scabbards. Quest starts at lvl15+. Genuine early, When the war expedient models were produced (initially with the "L" flip sight, then those selected for conversion to T status had to have the rear sight replaced with a modified micrometer sight (H&H indicated this had been done by stamping the "S" on the front of the right receiver wall ( this happened to most, but not all!) To ensure its the real deal and war period production, what should one look for? This mod adds an Lee Enfield No.4 Mk.1 alongside a small quest. Singer and other producers (Savage has been observed). on Oct 26, 2019. . The tab measures 4.75in. . examples with "E", "F" and "S" marks in a bright blued finish (often with a triangle that is a little too tight for the leather 1907 sling). British Lee-Enfield No4 Mk2 knife bayonet, scabbard and frog Dated 1949 P (RSAF Poole) 95.00. Although troops often resorted to more expedient means of modifying frogs to retain No. Hey guys, I just recently was given by my boss a Lee Enfield NO.4 MK1 303 British that I am trying to gather all the info about. 4Mk. trailer 4 bayonets. In the future, with a bit of luck, i should be a position to purchase an active Lee Enfield No 4. According to Jordanian collector/ researcher Ahmad Hatamleh, Jordan and Iraq were the two countries in the Levant where the British helped establish their national armies. III was the final, and crudest, form of the No. "1951" and broad arrow proofmark, Cover (Inside): "P.S.S. It has a tapered steel body with a ball finial. The M47C is typical, as is the date and TR mark. You're probably going to have to "infer" its origins from things like proof marks. 7B/1005/21/103/1147 After wrapping the point, this bayonet would have been oiled and sealed in clear plastic. Many of these countries had No4Ts as well. 0000013109 00000 n The final result in March 1944 became the No. Here is a Hoyt marked MT&B Co made USA 1907 leather sling produced in 1918 which are thought to have made up the contingent of these WW1 supply / shipments. APEX Gun Parts is your source for hard to find gun parts, parts kits, and accessories. No idea what it means on a No.4. JavaScript is disabled. 4 Mk. Read my article on Bayonets for the Short, Magazine, Lee-Enfield Rifles. Along with this will be the model designation, and below this, the serial number. I bayonet was short, light, sturdy, and unappealing. This also disbursed production, mitigating the risk of production being interrupted by bombing. 4Mk. The socket was forged by Viners Ltd. The Canadian Arsenals trademark was adopted in 1947 and replaced the Long Branch trademark used during the Second World War. Stock No: 7B/546 Bayonet My thought is its a Savage No4 Mk1* lend lease made in 1942, It has the ( S ) markings and machine marks, The receiver, barrel, bolt, magazine and stock all have the same Indian furbished serial numbers and the savage markings. 210.00. II: Singer in Scotland, the Savage Stevens Co. in the USA, and Long Branch in Canada. Had a look at Skennerton, and did not find much. The very first Maltbys and BSA's produced their own and used the associated early marks for each (large B for BSA, stylized M for Maltby). For those out there that want to get deeper into the serial number issues I would suggest purchasing either Skip Strattons or Ian Skennertons books. 1944 Enfield No.4 Mk1*(T) Long Branch TP Sniper Rifle Serial # 74L0318 (Converted by Long Branch Arsenal, Ontario, Canada) c/w matching Telescopic, Sighting C No.32, Mk.I(TP) (Trade Pattern) Scope Serial # 4392S (Mfg by Lyman-Alaskan) . wide. The No. "AM/712" indicates procurement via an Air Ministry (RAF) contract. No4 Mk2 - 1955. by Saxon Cross 23 Mar 2012, 13:50, Post Lee-Enfield No. I* (T) were the standard WWII sniper rifles for the British and for the Commonwealth, except for Australia. In 1943, Prince-Smith was assigned the dispersal code N56. II was otherwise identical to the Mk. The left side receiver wall has the "angled transition" (just below the ejector screw) which is a Savage (rather than British-made) feature, so its one or the other of the New World manufacturers, but I don't know if Long Brach also did the same thing? 4Mk. The Savage-Stevens plant in Chicopee Falls was where New England Westinghouse produced Mosin-Nagant M1891 rifles in 19151917 under contract to the Imperial Russian government. Singer continued using a similar markings, as used on the Mk. The No. These specific letter prefixes were assigned to ROF Fazakerley and BSA Shirley, the only two manufacturers of the No5 rifle, this ensured that there would be no duplicate serials during the production run of No5s. The rod of this example is marked S7, indicating manufacture by subcontractor Auto Engineering Ltd. of Croydon. These bayonets equipped the 2ndNew Zealand Expeditionary Force. No4 Mk1 - DP - A safety lesson 2012: A DP marked rifle fired without first being completely dismantled or inspected after purchase by a new owner. The period of manufacture is believed to be late-1940s or early-1950s. 1 rifle), but changes were made to the. The No. A listing of British and Commonwealth bayonet markings is available on Bryan Browns Old Military Markings Web site. That`s a No4 Mk1* made by Savage for England in the days of WW 2. Lee Enfield No. I'll shoot some pictures of mine this weekend if you want. by Saxon Cross 22 Mar 2012, 21:45, Post II bayonets from 19421944. During the war, the No. 4 Mk. Along with parts replacement and service programs. I scabbard in web belt frogs made for use with the Pattern 1907 bayonet. Is, until the government created the dispersal codes in 1943. The rifle was a No. II*, all in the UK: Prince-Smith & Stells, Howard & Bullough, Lewisham Engineering, and the Baird Manufacturing Co. 1.4million No. There are fewer finer rifles that are a pleasure to own, enjoy and shoot than the peacetime made Lee Enfield No4 Mk2. The swivel was to be "low turret" in design so that the sling body would be stopped by the existing magazine loop - this allowed the sling to be "locked" in a diagonal exit path off the fore end at an ideal angle to wrap the bicep and provide sling position options for better steadying in all positions. I rifle, the No. 4Mk. Pakistan and India added the "Ishapore" screw to reinforce the front wood forward of the knox (more likely job creation for armourers). II bayonets packaged in a cardboard carton. over S376, inside a rectangle. Markings: The left side of the stock collar is marked "14C2827 / S /1942" and with a flaming bomb proof. 5 mm. Seen in the picture above are the normal spots to find the serial number and manufacturers information on the No4 and the No5 rifle. Milled micrometer iron sight. The bayonet exhibits better finishing than most British No. $8.69 shipping. The factory site was razed to accommodate (apartment) flats in the mid-1980s. Then after the lessons and material losses of the BEF in Europe, the No4T was hurried into existence and the 1907 USA leather slings were applied to it as standard equipment. identification lists detailing by illustration, descriptive part name and part number, all parts of the Rifle, .303 Calibre, Lee Enfield, No 4, Mk 1 * and its associated equipment. 0000002767 00000 n 0000001613 00000 n Subcontractors produced many of the No. Savage marked their bayonets with the letter "S". 0000003043 00000 n Unfired and as clean and bright as the day it was born in the Fazakerley Royal Ordnance Factory in Liverpool in 1954. Since the overall length is 46", it will fit many other rifles. He does mention the stylised 'M' is rare compared to the other factory markings encountered. This CFTO is for identification purposes only and is not an authority to procure parts. When reference is made to an all matching SMLE the serial numbers must all be the same. 4 Mk 1* (T) rifle in .303 British made by Savage in 1942. . 4 bayonet. This PSK No. 769 0 obj<> endobj Our Price: 9.99: No4 Mk1 sight. In the British war time contract scheme there were 2 phases of demarcation - early / pre-war marks, and later regionalized contractor codes, For mid 1943 and down you are seeking the early war markings from Singer (SM), after that seek the regional producer code (S69 - for Southern region, 69th contractor). According to Graham Priest, on a rough scale of observations, he indicated that you see 100P.S.& S.Ltd for every circle mark; 150P.S.K for every circle mark, and 500N56 or unmarked for every circle mark. Manufacturers in North America did not use Dispersal Codes. 4 Mk. The significance of this mark is not known. The No. According to Skennerton, 25,000 experimental MkII scabbards were manufactured by the Franco-British Electrical Company, Tempel Park, Hurley. 4 MK. Plastic Mk. The demand of new ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle's has risen 8 units over the past 12 months. What this page will attempt to provide is a basic overview of the serial system and where to find them along with the manufacture markings and barrel date stamp that is common on most Enfields. After hostilities the No4T parts and CES lists were re-standardized with the 1907 USA Leather Sling as a standard (despite the progress and learning). 4 MK 1 and retained its original chambering in .303 British. Savage was the only other maker to follow Singer's pattern of marking the spring plunger. 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Although some knife bayonet designs were considered, most types submitted utilized a cruciform blade. Note that not all FTR rifle were converted. III sniper rifle and Enfield No. An average example runs about $375 in very good condition at the time of this writing. It is a bolt action repeating rifle with a 10 round box magazine and free floating barrel, and is chambered for the venerable Mk.VII ammunition in .303 caliber. Some DP markings on non load bearing parts. 1 Mk3 mark III SMLE No4 Mk1 1917 British Parts Lot S at the best online prices at eBay! and N74 - sometimes both in the same instance (pus inspection / receiving marks). Other Nations Service and Replacement - Differing Nations have taken equipment from Great Britain and her colonies over the decades for frontline, secondary and domestic / internal service - Such as Italy and Holland immediately after WW2 - Israel and South Africa in the 1950s and 1960s India and Pakistan have kept their Lee Enfield's up and in reserve until a few years ago. 4Mk. You must log in or register to reply here. The Parker HAle PH215 series triangular sling swivel is "High Tower" and will have the triangle clear the trigger housing loop to spin 360 degrees - these are also typically bright blued or blacked. 5 will have "Rifle No 5 Mk I" electrostencilled there, [20] while a post-war conversion will generally have either no markings or markings from manufacturers who did not make the No. On the left, the scopeless one exhibits all marks as freehand stamps under the blackened surface - except the serial which may be a light stamp or a very precise electro-pencil. 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